Bayern won again, Schalke lost again - no surprises there on MD4. What did come as a bit of a shock was Hertha's mutilation of Gladbach, a performance which made more than just your host and resident HaHoHe-niac Matt Hermann sit up and take notice. This week's guest Ronan Murphy, a neutral party, is slowly being won over as well to the attacking charms of the capital club, an eventuality that, believe all of us, nobody saw coming. Also discussed: Domenico Tedesco's coming resurrection, Werder Bremen's reaching cruising altitude, and Red Bull's potential mistake in not just giving their coaching gig to Jesse Marsch. Produced by Aidan Rantoul.